Posts by Newly Enlightened

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Can't afford to pay Candace, but they can afford this:

by WinstonSmith in

http://thetandd.com/news/local/jehovah-s-witnesses-unveil-million-assembly-hall/article_82f68742-6776-11e2-a641-001a4bcf887a.html?comment_form=true.

i've been lurking here for some time and now that i've registered here's a little bit about myself... i'm in northern europe (so english is not my own language,but i have indeed studied it for more than 18 months) and i was born into this hateful cult in the "momentuous" year of -75.good that my parents stayed alive till then!.

as far back as i can remember i had doubts both about the doctrines and the whole existence of god.however,i instinctively knew that these doubts are not to be mentioned.so i learned to be a fake at an early age.though having read many other stories here i realise how easy i got it.i now understand that we lived in a rather liberal area and also my family was quite liberal eventhough my dad was an elder since mid -80 and mom was really "strong in the truth".i never brought up the religion at school or with friends and was never bullied or anything.it helped that i was good at sports,especially football (soccer for americans) and football is also the source of my biggest hurt in childhood.i know it may sound very trivial,but the fact that i wasn't allowed to join a football team felt just so unjust and painfull and it lasted all through my childhood.whenever we had a new gym teacher,the first thing he asked me was which team do i play for.i was too embarrased to tell the truth and i just gave the impression that i only wanted to play for fun and not join any team.oh,how badly i wanted to!.

somehow i managed to silence all those doubts and got babtised as a young man.very soon after the babtism i knew that it didn't have the hoped for effect of making me more spiritual and meetings and field service still felt an absolute bore.now began the long years of just "going through the motions".all my family (parents,many brothers and sisters,uncles and aunts,nieces and nephews) and most of my friends were in.i never reached out and attended only one or two meetings a week and penned my hours.i kind of liked my congregation (also,the seats at our kh were really comfy,so i often slept through the meetings) and made some very good friends.friends that - as you all can guess- didn't turn out to be so good in the end,but with whom i nonetheless had some good times and felt a strong connection to.. for a long time nothing happened that would've disrupted my rather non-eventfull life as a lacklustre jdub with at least another foot in the "world".i'd done many things that would've gotten me d'fed,but i never had any intentions of going to the elders about it and i had no pangs of conscience about it either.it was just a matter of convenience..i liked my witness friends,wanted to hold on to them and not to lose my family.. however..there was this girl... a (worldly,of course) girl that i had absolutely fell for and had a brief romance with many years ago.now she was back in my life.i must omit the proceeding turns of events for the sake of anonymity,but the end result is that i'm a proud father of a lovely baby girl.well,not so much baby anymore as she starts school soon.i love her so much and it gives me great satisfaction that she is growing free from any influence of vicious cults or of any gods for that matter.we live now in different countries but i see her often and there's always skype.. her birth also acted as a catalyst for the change in relationship between me and the society.i decided that i wanted to share the joy of her birth and existence with my family,eventhough i also knew that that would mean i'd have to go the elders too.if i didn't,they would,and that would result in automatic disfellowshippping.. a jc was duly formed and i had decided that i'm not going to go there and tell them that i regret her,as having her is the best thing that's ever happeded to me.

Newly Enlightened

Welcome, I LOVe seeing all the Newbies to this site.

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What's you BIGGEST pet peeve/disagreement with the WT or GB?!?

by TeenageInsider in

for me its the district conventions.

not bragging in anyway, but i was born-into a family of 'higher ups' im talking co's and zo's..... and there is a room that they set up in the conventions/stadiums called the "chairmans office".

i always have access to these rooms, because im usually with one of my higher up family members who give talks and all that other crap.. anyways, while everyone in the convention is sitting in the sun, eating a slimy, soggy bolognia sandwich, the chairmans office is air conditioned, has a variety of chilled beverages, 'coke, pepsi, diet coke, gatorade, dasani water bottles,' not to mention the 'danishes, sandwich triangles, cookies, cakes, muffins, fresh coffee, and for lunch, pizza, salads, pastas, and lasagna'.

Newly Enlightened

All the lies, wrong prophecies, RUINING my life [[I'm from the 1975 generation] When I was 12 in early 70's, my teeth were so crooked that the dentist told my parents that something needed to be done, like braces. 'Honey if you can just wait a couple more years, the new system is right here.' So I'm 49 now with crooked painful teeth and because of no education, no money, no insurance nothing can be done. now my mother and other family members are shunning me just because I dared to ask where Jesus was in the picture from the 4/15/2013 WT study edition.

Sorry I don't mean to rant & rave but it's a touchy subject lately. My daughter & son-in-law got 'fixed' so that they couldn't have any kids.

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Fading JW goes against 3 Mormons

by Gojira_101 in

well as the title says it.

i had 3 mormons "call" on me a few minutes ago.

this is the first time being on the other side of the door knocking.

Newly Enlightened

I wonder if any of those Elder's went home and thought about what Gojira said? Because I know that they believe there are still modern day prophets in their church. Maybe they'll come join the Conscience Class

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Fading JW goes against 3 Mormons

by Gojira_101 in

well as the title says it.

i had 3 mormons "call" on me a few minutes ago.

this is the first time being on the other side of the door knocking.

Newly Enlightened

That's our girl! Proud of you Sweetie!

That actually could work against JW's also.

If Jesus was the perfect prophet and gave us everything we needed to have a relationship with Him & God, then Why do we need a GOVERNING BODY that would be taking His position?

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WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2

by AnnOMaly in

out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!

on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.

"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.

Newly Enlightened

This was probably covered on a previous page but Snarky did a very good video debunking those articles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4uDBuwDVv8

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New here

by His Excellency in

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friends

for the record, i am not a native english speaker, infact i recently just started studying english about 18months ago.

so apologies for any error you may encounter in the process of making sense of my logic.. i am from a small village in a destitute and war ravaged african country, 80 percent of people in my town live on less than 50cent in a day and myself included, no roads, no hospital, no public institution, no social welfare support, no national security institutiion, nothing, just tribal factions exchanging agricultural produce and i have always wondered why jehovah would have to put the preaching work ahead of a poverty eradication program at this desperate time of our existence.. .

it was an emotional adventure on finding answers to that question that led me here.

Newly Enlightened

WELCOME His Excellency! Your English is very good. So far today, I have seen post from 5 Newbies, H Excellency, 2 elders, 1 MS and someone else.

WELCOME ALL and Peace be with you in your journey to find the real truth.

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New Member...

by sosoconfused in

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friends

hello everyone, just wanted to say hi and introduce myself.. i am a mid 30's just stepped aside elder, who just couldn't handle it anymore.. i am a 3rd generation born-in and former pioneer and bethelite.

it has been a log somewhat confusing ride for me, but i am finally settling in to realizing that i need to really look at what me and my family are doing.. .

its funny though what really got me here... it wasn't the 40 year old men telling me they were looking at boobies on the computer and hoping not to get in trouble, it wasn't the watching young people bail left and right, it wasn't the ever changing new light etc... but a simple thought.. .

Newly Enlightened

Welcome aboard! I am also fairly new here and as my post name says newly enlightened. I have been a JW my entire life [49 yrs] and yes, I'm from the 1975 debacle, I mean generation.

Being a woman myself, i can understand how your wife might be feeling. I didn't want to lose my family who are all JW's. I kept saying to myself 'What if I'm wrong and this really is God's organization? So I would pray for guidance and truth and continue my research and just kept finding more and more scandals & lies. The Reasoning book pg 89 was a big one for me. The missing [...] from the quotation from the Imperial Bible Dictionary was pointed out to me by a dear friend. I put the link below so that you can calmly show your wife what the reference book REALLY says. It's very much pro-cross and the WTS took the information out of context and fabricated a lie.

Zoom in so that you can see the actual wording used: http://archive.org/stream/theimperialbible01unknuoft#page/376/mode/1up

This got my husband and I both to thinking, "If they lied about this, then what else have they lied about?" 2 Th 2:11 "So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they get to believing the lie" [NWT]

Wish you & your family the best on your journey. It will be difficult at first but you will feel freer than you ever have. Let what Jesus taught in the gospels and prayer be your anchor

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Newbies

by Ding in

jwn is getting a lot of newbies.. if you are a newbie, what was it that started you posting here?.

was it the "new light" on the "faithful and discreet slave" or something else?.

Newly Enlightened

The missing [...] in the Reasoning book under the subheading 'Cross' I got that page from the Imperial Bible Dictionary and realized that the book the WTS was quoting from was misquoted and that they were actually PRO cross! I was shocked that if they could lie about that, what else have they lied about?

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New Member-Active Elder

by Promitheas in

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friends

i'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.

i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.

some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..

Newly Enlightened

Welcome. Glad to hear that you've been researching. Wish you the best on your journey back to God & Christ.